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Dan Levy Wants You to Dress Like His TV Show Characters for Halloween

“I was seriously considering taking a beta-blocker before this interview,” Dan Levy tells guest hosts Hannah Jackson and Margaux Anbouba on today’s episode of The Run-Through. “The first time I ever took a beta-blocker was, like, an hour and a half before hosting the Emmys.” Luckily for this generally anxious trio, the stakes in Vogue’s podcast studio were much lower. Levy came on to the show ahead of the April 9 release of Big Mistakes, his new comedy series on Netflix, co-created with Rachel Sennott. (The two met while working on The Idol, they wrote the pilot together, “and the rest is history!”) Like Schitt’s Creek before it, Big Mistakes is a family story—but this time, it centers on two siblings who stumble into the world of organized crime. “Committing to an idea that you feel excited to tell in a long-form format is an intense thing,” Levy says. “And I have a very irrational fear of being blackmailed into organized crime.”

Released on 04/17/2026

Transcript

Oh, I love this tie. Welcome

Oh my gosh, thanks. Okay, we'll get into it.

We'll get into it.

Okay. Dan Levy,

welcome to The Run-Through.

Thank you so much- Thank you for joining us.

For having me.

I was seriously considering taking a beta blocker

before this interview.

I have some upstairs. She just

took one. I just did.

[Hannah laughing]

I was getting I was like- But I've been taking them

for years. Feeling anxious.

I'm very anxious. I haven't done things

like this for a long time.

Oh gosh. You're with an anxious crew,

so. Yeah.

Great, we can just channel that.

We'll just vibe out. We'll hopefully just

neutralize each other. Frenetic, yeah.

Yeah. No, it'll be great.

I would've taken one if I had never taken,

but I've never taken one

and I didn't wanna be like really zonked for this.

It doesn't zonk you. The first time

I ever took a beta blocker was

like an hour and a half before hosting the Emmys.

[Hannah gasps]

Stop. Yeah.

Wait. You're so brave.

What made you-

Hosting the Emmys. Decide that was

the right time?

Desperation. Mm.

I think I was so nervous that I thought,

well, it'll make for a great story if I just zonk out.

Totally. Mm-hmm.

And I think the nerves were actually stabilized

by the beta blocker-

Okay. To the point

where I still felt incredibly nervous the whole time.

Yeah.

How could you not? Yeah.

But also you didn't seem like,

like you were not James Franco

[Dan laughing] with Anne Hathaway when

he was really out of it. Just short-circuiting.

[Margaux] Yeah.

No, fortunately, it was like it worked itself out.

I was very happy with how it all turned out,

but like, you know, I spun the wheel-

Yeah. Of fortune a little bit

and it worked out.

Thank God. Yeah, you're here

to tell the tale.

I'm still here. That's crazy.

Someone wants to talk to me, so that's good.

We definitely do.

We're so excited. You do.

I'm so happy to be here.

Can you tell us a little bit about

what you're wearing today?

Just to kick things off.

This is fabulous.

I am wearing a Celine.

We love Michael Rider.

Michael Rider, Celine, represent your old friends.

I've known Michael- Yeah.

For like 20 years.

Oh my God. Oh.

And this is like a big moment for him

and I couldn't be happier. Yeah.

How did y'all meet?

We met through a mutual friend

and I have like been in awe of him ever since

and just have watched,

you know when you watch a friend

like work their way to a place

where circumstance and opportunity meet

in this perfect synergy and they're right for it,

and it's the moment and the time, it's that.

And I couldn't be prouder.

I think he's just doing such incredible work.

[Hannah] Yeah.

And it's like just clothes you wanna wear.

[Margaux] The office is like in a tizzy-

Obsessed. After every single

one of his shows, from- Every show is insane.

The umbrellas, to the fact, the way they-

I [indistinct] an umbrella- The shoes,

the scarves. I stole an umbrella from-

Oh my God, good. The very first show.

Yeah. I thought, I was stealing-

You had to. I was stealing napkins.

Yes. I would.

I was like fanning out the,

I couldn't believe it was actually happening.

How do you steal an umbrella?

They're so big.

Well, they gave it to me and I just never returned it.

[all laughing]

It's yellow. You're like sticking it down

your skinny pant leg. Sometimes I wear it

down the street and hope that people notice.

And you're like, oh, this old thing.

Oh, this OG-

Oh my- Michael Ryder

Celine umbrella from the show

that was expected to be returned.

Ain't no thing. I have it.

Good.

I think- Honestly, I wish

you had taken a dozen of 'em.

This is great press. They were all good.

I couldn't figure out which one to pick.

Yeah. That was the problem.

Oh my God. Amazing.

Okay, so we're here today to talk about Big Mistakes,

your new show.

[Dan] Yeah.

[Margaux] It was such an entertaining watch.

I watched it- Thanks.

[Margaux] This weekend my entire family was giggling.

Oh good. While we were watching it.

Yes, at different points too. So I feel like you were-

Great. Hitting a lot of different-

We love that. Yeah.

I heard though it's inspired by real life events somewhere.

Yeah.

Well, like making a TV show is, I mean, it's hard [laughs].

It's hard, but it's committing to an idea

that you feel excited by to tell in a long form format

is an intense thing.

And I have a very irrational fear

of being blackmailed into organized crime.

Oh. Yeah, who among us?

I dunno where it comes from.

I would never find myself ever in my life

in any situation that would lend itself

to that kind of opportunity.

But I thought, I think this could be

like a funny thing to write.

Mm-hmm.

Mainly because I think if I were to find myself

in that situation, I would be instantly murdered.

Yeah.

I called up Rachel Sennott, who, you know, in my head,

I was like, she also seems like not someone

a criminal organization would necessarily like-

Recruit.

Put their trust in. Yeah.

In a good way, that's a compliment.

And we just started to like brainstorm

what that could look like and the rest is history.

Yeah. I heard that you and Rachel wrote the pilot

in one single day. In a day.

Well, we, yeah, like-

Crazy.

We had outlined for months, but like the actual writing

of the pilot- Yeah.

We sat down in the morning

and we finished the 32 pages by the end of the day.

Wow. I'd never had

that kind of experience writing with anyone before.

Wow. Where it was just like,

it just worked.

And we really kind of,

we come from two different schools of comedy,

but there is overlap in the grounded nature of it, I think.

I'd always really admired her work

and I feel like she has such a singular voice

in like the comedy space

And then we work together on The Idol.

I'm not one, I'm Canadian,

so I'm not really like one to reach out to people

because I constantly am like questioning my worth and value

in relation to other people.

But this was a situation where I felt like,

I think, it's a brother and sister comedy.

I really wanted the female perspective to feel real,

coming from a place of experience.

And I just felt like she had

such an amazing sensibility to lend itself

to like our dynamic.

So I asked and kind of pitched her the premise.

And she loved it.

And we worked for like six months together on it.

Rachel is having a big moment herself

with I Love LA.

Were you to guest star on the show,

who would you wanna play?

I don't think I'm like cool enough

to be on that show.

Please. Don't, don't.

No. No, I'm not saying-

In the Celine drip. That to be self-deprecating.

Listen, I like clothes, but I don't,

I don't know, I would be like an anxious boss.

Okay.

Like a neurotic agent, I don't know.

I'm like caricaturing myself at this point.

I'm like, what are the scripts I get?

Anxious friend, anxious coworker.

Yeah, I mean, yeah.

I'm so happy for her.

I wanna go back to Nicky for a second.

Yeah.

He is a gay pastor.

Mm-hmm. It's very cool.

I grew up in Texas.

Okay. So I was immediately charmed

by the character because of a lot

of the like religious background, whatever.

Where did your inspiration for him come from

and do you have any like relationship

with spirituality? To God?

Yeah, anything.

That you were drawing from

I know you're a Leo.

Yeah. I'm a Leo too.

And Leos are god. Leo Scorpio rising.

Whoa. Double Leo Scorpio rising.

Hell, hell. Ooh.

That is crazy. Hell.

[Hannah laughing]

My God.

[Dan laughing] I can feel it coming off.

It's chaotic. I can feel the energy.

Hence the beta blocker. Yeah.

I'm like, we just gotta repress all of that.

I really wanted to tell the story of a character

that was very far from David Rose

who was so like, wears his emotions on his sleeve,

was so reactive to like any kind of stimuli.

And to play a character

that was slightly more like repressed

and like oppressed by his circumstances

felt really interesting and very different.

But I really wanted to honor it

and I didn't want his faith to ever be the butt of a joke.

So we had a consultant who was a gay pastor

who worked with us through that whole thing-

That's cool. To make sure

that we were respecting the religious side of this.

I never wanted that to be reduced in any way.

So yeah, it was like,

it turned out to be a really interesting journey to go on.

And like I am of a two faith background.

So in Schitt's Creek we were like a Jewish family.

And in this, we're kind of Italian.

I'm sort of a Presbyterian-

Yes, yes.

Denomination on Big Mistakes.

But yeah, it's interesting

to kind of explore a completely different area.

I love that. Yeah.

Another side of Nicky I wanna ask.

I don't wanna get too personal,

but have you ever stolen anything?

I stole an Almond Joy from a 7-Eleven

when I was seven. How old were you?

Okay. Oh my God.

Were you caught? Yes.

[Dan gasps] My father caught me

like walking to the car.

Right out.

Yeah and I had to take it back in.

Was it that childish naivety of like,

I didn't know what I'm doing,

I just grabbed something and left.

I- Or did you have

criminal intent?

No, I don't think

I had criminal intent. This girl has got

criminal intent. I think I had hungry intent

and was like, I want this coconut.

You just wanted to eat that coconut.

Yeah, I just wanted to eat

and wasn't really thinking about what I was up to.

I consciously stole a pair of sunglasses

from a gas station on a school trip to Quebec City.

Okay. How old were you?

I was, I want to say 11 or 12.

I thought- Mm, were they cool?

They were sort of a very cheap spin on an Oakley.

Totally. Mm-hmm.

And I've thought about that crime every day since.

Well, that's the blackmail that you're concerned about.

Yeah, yeah.

It's the emotional- It's the seed-

Weight of- I'm glad you're getting it

off your chest. Yeah, and you know what,

I'm sorry.

And if I ever go back to Quebec City,

I will drop off 7.99 to the-

Have you, well, inflation, I'm sure,

is quite steep, so. That's right.

Yeah. It's 49.99 at this point.

Yes. Sorry.

Yes. [Margaux exclaims]

You know.

Kind of in the same vein of spirituality,

I saw online that you are into tarot cards

or you get your tarot read sometimes.

Why are you laughing? No, no, no, I know.

Okay, yes, keep going.

Oh, okay.

Well, I saw that you work with Trevor Ballin

who is very big in the- Wow.

So Trevor. Okay.

Trevor is the person who, 20 plus years ago,

introduced me to Michael.

Incredible. Oh.

Trevor is my brother and has been

one of my all-time closest friends

for many, many, many years.

And he is an extraordinary card reader

and I can't believe I'm giving him this press right now.

He will simultaneously like love it and hate it,

but mainly love it.

But he is not a professional card reader.

[Hannah laughing]

He is a friend who has had a lifelong love,

admiration and study of tarot.

Yeah. Hmm.

Which makes him a very good,

I mean, I don't know how you become

a professional card reader.

I guess you just decide--

You just decide. Anyway, no offense

to professional card readers,

not quite sure what you have to do

to legitimize yourself in that way.

But he would, every Sunday,

he used to live in New York before moving to Paris,

he would read friends.

And so the web of friends kind of grew

because you know, he would read me

and then I would recommend a friend

and a friend would recommend a friend.

And it sort of became this like little community of people

who sort of would, on a Sunday, go over to his apartment.

It's always out of his apartment, which is crazy

'cause I guess some of the people he's read at this point.

Yeah.

He read Jonathan Anderson's cards.

I put Jonathan in touch with Trevor.

Stop, you're the link.

I am the source. You're the connect.

[gasps] Oh my God,

you deserve your credit. I told Jonathan

to go to Trevor.

He then started to go to Trevor like quite often.

Mm. Oh my God.

And has been going for quite some time.

But I guess this one particular post

blew up. Blew up.

He gained like 10,000 followers on Instagram-

One of them being me. Over the Jonathan post.

Okay, he's now like a name in tarot.

He's getting cold calls from like the craziest people.

Like who?

I can't name names.

It's, I- Okay.

But like people.

Mm-hmm. People.

People.

And I guess I'm sort of like, as the gatekeeper,

feel like I just never wanted to get to a point

where I can't get my cards read

again. Oh yeah.

I mean, I think- You know what I mean?

He's getting busy and that's annoying for me.

Totally, you're like- It feels like he should

always hold a spot for you. Yeah.

He will. 'Cause you-

Congrats on your success. Busted the gate open.

Exactly. Yeah.

That's right.

I know that you did a lot of the sourcing

for Schitt's Creek for your own costuming when it came-

No, I did all the costuming.

[Hannah] That's-

Like, I didn't- Yes.

Costume Schitt's Creek, but I bought-

The fashioning,

let's call it. The fashion

on Schitt's Creek. 'Cause it's not

really costume.

So what was the approach like for Big Mistakes?

Were you doing the same thing?

Very different.

Okay, tell me more. Very different.

Well, Schitt's, we didn't have any money.

The Roses came from money.

I wanted people at home who paid attention to fashion

to see it realized on the screen.

So over the course of a season,

I would be shopping all year-round,

consignment, like secondhand, eBay, Yoox.

Wow. Early days of Yoox

when you could find like-

Deep cut. Archival stuff on there.

Yeah.

For relatively cheap.

Vestiaire, RealReal.

I found like unbelievable grails on all of those sites.

But I remember at the time,

I was just more involved, ultimately.

And I remember there's a scene in Schitt's Creek

where I'm in a field with a pitchfork.

[Hannah] Ugh, I love that scene.

And I'm in a Helmut Lang horse hair mohawked

cashmere hooded sweatshirt.

And I had it in my mind long before

because there was some editorial

and some maybe like early days of I-D

or The Face or something, Elijah Wood, I think,

[Hannah laughing]

wore that Mohawk helmet hoodie

and I couldn't get it outta my mind.

I wanted it desperately.

I never had the money to buy it.

So when we had a little bit of budget for Schitt's,

I was like, oh, that hooded sweatshirt

would be really good for this particular scene.

Anyway, I ended up finding it.

Where is it now? And now I own it.

Oh good, I'm glad.

Thank God. We had to sell

a lot of the costumes for the show because we had to-

Keep replenishing. Replenish the budget.

We couldn't, yeah. Yeah.

But that was fun.

And like, in this, it was very different

because we didn't have to source designer clothing.

And he's a man of the cloth wearing normal cloth.

Yes. And Courtney Wheeler,

who's our incredible costume designer on this,

came from The Bear.

And I loved all the work that she was doing on The Bear.

Yeah. Like really personalized,

grounded, but singular

and interesting choices that were made.

But it was all about like New Jersey norm core.

And my approach to costuming is always like,

I would love, there's no bigger compliment

than having someone dress as you for Halloween.

Okay. Oh yeah.

Love.

And we were very lucky in the Schitt's world

where like every character had such a distinct aesthetic

that it lent itself very sort of easily

to the Halloween culture.

So this one was a little bit different,

but I still in the back of my mind was like,

I use Halloween as like a North Star.

Yeah. In the sense

that you do want an audience

to come to recognize these characters' aesthetic

along with who they are as people.

So in working with Courtney on the show,

it was like what are the little swerves

we could give everybody to make their aesthetic,

which is very normal, feel distinct in some way.

So with my character we played with like oversized belts,

so I always kind of had these like-

Yeah.

Derpy pants and like,

with like a really big belt. The woven belt.

Yeah. Yeah.

That hangs off the side and like-

I did notice that and I was like that's funny.

Yeah and I think that's how, what he,

he clearly likes it.

Like my character loves a little like flappy belt thing

and like a billowy sort of blousey cotton shirt.

I don't know what he was thinking about,

but there is like a JFK Jr.-ish vibe.

Even though he himself has no personal style whatsoever.

But in that sense, he does.

So it was like twisting the norm core world

into something that felt a little more singular,

if that made any sense.

Mm-hmm, yeah.

Speaking of fashion though, we like to ask everyone,

what's your first like real formative fashion memory?

I believe that my love of fashion

stems from not being allowed to wear it as a kid.

My like, love my parents,

they were very supportive.

They did not buy me clothes growing up.

Fine.

So where were you shopping growing up?

Well, every school year,

I think I was taken to like The Gap.

Totally.

And Club Monaco.

Yes. Club Monaco on-

Oh, club Monaco is like-

Oh. So mature.

Club Monaco.

You're like a 7-year-old all dressed in-

First of all,

I believe Club Monaco- Like chinos.

Started in Canada.

Okay. Okay.

I believe it was originally a Canadian company.

Totally. I could be wrong, but I-

Got around.

At least within Canada, that's the lore.

Okay [laughing].

And it was fashion.

Okay.

Club Monaco was, in Canada, like girls in high school

would wear Club Monaco totes as backpacks.

Totally. Mm.

So all the school bags were

in a white or black Club Monaco tote.

I, of course, was taken into these places

like reaching for sweaters with stripes on them.

Constantly told like no.

And then we would buy

like one pair of pants and one sweater, great.

Like restraint.

Mm-hmm.

There was a lust like-

The lust for Club Monaco. I was so,

and I think I was too young

to like explain to my family like,

this is how I think I can express myself.

Like I'm a closeted kid.

I don't know how to express myself

but its, clothing felt like this world of self-expression

that I never was really able to get my hands on

until I was in high school.

And then I worked at The Gap.

[Margaux gasps] Well, I didn't work

at The Gap, I worked at GapKids

'cause I was too scared of running into anyone I knew.

Oh.

So if you dealt with like young people

or moms like that I could handle.

Yeah, not peers. But like people

from my high school. No.

No.

What was the playlist like at GapKids?

Because you know The Gap playlists

was so iconic. It was like New Radicals,

I think was on there. Wow.

There was a lot of like Nelly Furtado.

The kids love it.

Do you fold really well still?

I do, yeah. Okay.

God, I'm jealous of that.

And I can do it with or without the board.

Ugh, the board is so great.

The board was major.

Anyone who's worked retail knows the board-

Yeah. Loves the board.

And I was a top seller of the summer.

I believe it. So I got a $50 gift card.

[Margaux gasps] Oh and what did you

spend it on? I bought a chunky

cranberry turtleneck.

Oh. Oh cute.

Yeah.

That did not look good on me

'cause I don't have much of a neck.

So it was-

[laughing] God. Mm.

It was just like

up to your smile. I invested the money.

I like took my $50 gift card

and the like $75 I made for like three weeks of work

and bought the sweater and really tried to make it work.

And I feel like when we were younger,

you really try for things.

Like there were trends that, now, I have the wherewithal

to know like don't, but back then I didn't have that.

Yeah.

So I wore that cranberry turtleneck

with some boot cut denim.

I bet you looked really cute though.

And like a Simple,

do you remember Simple shoes?

You guys are so much

younger than me. No, no, but-

Well it was a brand,

I think it was a skate brand called Simple.

Okay. Period.

And they had a shoe that I somehow was able to-

Like a big skateboarder chunky shoe.

No, it wasn't chunky, chunky-

Okay. It was half-wear.

It was like a Stan Smith meets like a Van.

Okay, got it. Mm.

Do you own a lot of glasses?

I'm curious like how you-

Yeah. How many do you own?

Do you collects them-

I- And how do you choose?

How'd you pick today's?

It's a great question.

I will like sample.

Mm-hmm. Okay.

What are these today?

Can you tell us about the glasses?

These, I just got them in Japan.

Oh. Chic.

I just got back from Tokyo

like two days ago. Oh my God.

Oh my God. Are you horrifically

jet lagged? Of course.

And ran these to Digna.

[Margaux] Oh.

I bought them in a little,

my favorite glasses store in Japan called Globe Specs.

Okay.

If anyone travels to Japan-

We have a friend there right now.

Our colleague's there right now.

Globe Specs is it. We'll tell her.

And Globe Specs also has a vintage section

in some of their stores

that do like deadstock turn of the century

like Toulouse-Lautrec.

Oh my God. How cool. Well, I have.

Have you been to Fabulous Fanny's in East Village?

Of course.

Okay, I was gonna say I have a vintage good dead-

Oh yeah, no,

I'm all over it. Best deadstock glasses.

I probably have 100 plus

optical- What do you look for?

And then 75-ish sunglass.

How are you storing all of these?

Yeah, that's a follow-up.

I have cases.

Okay. Custom cases

that are like, my friend turned me onto them,

my friend Elena, who used to work with me

at my glasses company, sourced them.

They were shockingly cheap for what it is,

but you could customize them

and they're about two and a half feet tall

drawers with multiple sections in them.

You can customize the fake skin.

So it'd be like fake croc,

fake ostrich, fake whatever. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

So I have these like beautiful

like croc, fake crock cases. Yeah.

Like an apothecary. That can store,

that's right. Case but-

That store like 100 frames each.

And that's where I keep them.

And then I have travel cases

that store about like four to eight frames.

So like- That I brought with me.

Okay, I was gonna say, on your trip to Japan,

how many glasses-

I brought about- Are you taking with you?

I brought about eight sunglasses and eight optical.

Oh wow.

Yeah. I gotta step up my game.

So we have discussed that you are good friends

with Jonathan Anderson.

You went to the Met Gala with him

when he was at Loewe. Yeah.

You were at the Dior show.

Can you tell us a little bit about your relationship

and what it's been like to kind of watch

his trajectory recently?

Well, I have been a fan of Jonathan's

from his like very first collectsion for JW.

Wow.

And it's funny because we didn't really meet

until six years ago, I think.

He watched Schitt's

and he, I think, posted about it on Instagram.

And I remember like-

Oh my God.

Seeing it.

And again, like the Canadian in me

would never think to reach out to him

because how, I mean, who am I.

And so when I saw that, I like responded to it

and we started

texting back and forth. Did you give an emoji

or you said something?

No, I think I said something.

[Margaux] Okay.

But the story with Jonathan was,

many, many years ago. I used to be a veejay on MTV.

[Margaux gasps]

Yeah, in Canada.

Her eyes just lit up.

In Canada and here actually.

Love that. Oh yeah.

Hosted The Hills After Show, baby.

Oh my God, oh my God. Oh my God, this is fun.

It was me and Lauren Conrad at the-

Oh. Hollywood Roosevelt.

That's- Doing the finale

of every Hills season.

Oh my God.

Wild other life. Anyway. Do you miss it at all?

No. Okay, keep going, sorry.

No offense to The Hills, but like-

Yeah. That was never my lane.

Yes. And now, I'm able

to rewatch the show with a different love.

But at the time, yeah, it was never my thing,

but I had a great time.

Yeah.

But I had come into a little tiny bit of money

being on MTV, saw these shoes

somehow through a Blogspot or something-

Oh my God. Way back when-

Wow.

Of Jonathan's JW collectsion.

And he made these like, it was like a camper boot

that had studs all over it and flowers like woven into it.

And I thought like, I have to have that.

And I went on an internet deep dive.

This was many years ago.

[Hannah laughing]

It was almost impossible to find fashion

if you weren't living in New York City.

Yeah. Or Paris or whatever.

I was in Toronto, Canada.

Mm-hmm. God bless.

But like you couldn't get your hands on clothes.

I found the LNCC website.

They had, at the time, one pair of these shoes.

Yellow cap toe, studded.

Oh my God.

Chunky boots-

Amazing. That like, it was a thing.

And I bought them.

Were they your size

or you just bought them no matter what?

I think they were a size too big.

Okay. Okay.

But I bought them- Better than a size

too small.

I could wear them, I could put an insole in-

That's what matters. And it was fine.

But I ended up having dinner with Jonathan.

The very first time we had dinner,

I told him this story of finding those shoes

and he was like, You know,

I feel like I've heard your name, I heard your name,

because back then, people weren't buying

those shoes en masse.

They were like, it was a very small production order,

and he, I guess had some idea

of like the people who were- Who owned them.

He's like, Who the hell's Dan Levy?

Exactly.

[all laughing] Like in Toronto, what?

Mm-hmm.

The only pair in all of Canada.

Exactly.

And funnily enough, the only photo I have

of myself in those shoes, I wore the shoes

with a pair of jeans and a Phoebe Philo for Celine

gray turtleneck-

Oh my God. That Michael-

Back to the turtlenecks.

Had gotten for me because Michael was working

under Phoebe at Celine at the time.

Oh my God.

I went to Paris,

he brought me into the Celine like-

Atelier.

Atelier and hooked me up with the sweater.

And I was like, this is fashion.

That's not true. Mm-hmm, it is.

It's just wearing designer things that,

the two designer pieces I had ever bought at the time.

Yeah.

Wearing them together, didn't go.

But the nostalgia of seeing that photo

and what it means now.

And I was very lucky, particularly during the Loewe years

to like, I collaborated with him on this short film

that I made with Aubrey Plaza and that was really fun.

I pitched him that idea over dinner of a spelling bee

and he was like, we're doing it.

I love that. Let's get it done.

[Margaux] Wow.

And then I of course thought nothing of it

and literally, like a month later,

Loewe called and was like,

we wanna make this spelling bee Dan has an idea for.

And I thought, well, I better like-

Yeah. Figure it out.

He seems so game to play though

across all like creative mediums.

I was at the couture show

and there were all these vases

that were being referenced. Yeah.

[Margaux] And that was really cool.

I feel like he's- Yeah, the Magdalene Odundo-

[Margaux] Yes.

Pieces. His like interest

is so creative, period, like it's creative pursuits

across the board. Yeah.

And I think that that's what makes me very excited

about the work he's doing.

I think he's like a very curious person

and I don't think he takes himself too seriously

when it comes to his work.

And I think that's what I really respond to.

He has fun with the job

and I love, I love that.

I love humor.

As do we. You know.

Yes, we be giggling all day.

[all laughing]

So I am a beauty editor so I would be remiss-

Yeah. If I did not ask you,

are you into skincare?

Absolutely. Are you into wellness?

I wanna talk about your eyebrows.

Have you, what's your relation?

You have a historical family-

They're graying. Of eyebrows.

My eyebrows are graying and I'm at a crossroads-

No, I think that's sexy.

Interesting. Yeah.

I couldn't tell whether I should color them.

No. No.

Okay. I like it.

A couple gentlemen went to award ceremonies

with clearly dyed eyebrows this season

and I felt like it was quite a shock to me.

Well, that's, yeah.

Just for men is- And I have

a lot of real estate to color-

Yeah. If I were to do that.

So it would have to be a very subtle thing.

I trim my eyebrows.

Oh. That's all I do.

Okay.

I've filled them in from time to time.

But yeah, I'm very like precious about what?

I mean, I'm not as precious as my,

my dad is very precious about his eyebrows.

Okay. I mean, I don't-

[Margaux] He doesn't do anything, he's never-

[Dan] I don't think he-

Okay. I think he will trim-

Okay. The uni moments.

Though unis are cool too.

I think if he and I were to let our eyebrows

really run wild, it would be shocking.

Okay, it's eyebrow, not eyebrows.

I do think we are doing people a favor.

You're also reuniting with Aubrey Plaza soon

for the film Animal Friends.

Mm-hmm.

Have you guys worked together

beyond the Loewe spelling bee?

No, I'm friends, like Aubrey's been a friend for a while

and funnily enough, when we shot the Loewe film,

she was telling me that she was heading to Bulgaria

to shoot this movie.

Oh my God. Hmm.

And I at the time was like, Have fun in Bulgaria.

[Hannah and Margaux laughing]

And then kid you not, a week later,

I got a call to do the film.

Oh my God.

And I guess Vince Vaughn was originally supposed to do it

and he dropped out for some reason.

And naturally someone called me.

Oh yeah, obviously, like- I mean, you guys are like-

[Margaux] Yeah.

[Dan laughing]

And at the time, we're very similar types.

[Hannah] Yeah.

And at the time I remember feeling like,

well, how is this gonna work?

And they were like, Oh, don't worry,

Aubrey's playing Vince's part

and you're playing her part,

and was like-

Wait, so they swapped everything?

Right. So none of this has to do

with like someone thinking that I'm a Vince Vaughn type.

So Aubrey Plaza is a Vince Vaughn really

is what we're hearing. Aubrey Plaza

is a Vince Vaughn. And you're an Aubrey Plaza.

That's right.

And I got the call, it was a quick turnaround.

They were like, I think I got the call on a Thursday.

And they were like, Can you be in Bulgaria on Monday?

Yeah, I guess.

And what was that flight?

Wild. Is there a direct?

No, okay, yeah. No, of course not.

Yeah, I didn't think so. I think I connected-

Really? In like Dusseldorf

or something, I don't even know.

I blanked out through the-

Yeah. I woke up

and it was Bulgaria airport.

Took one of them beta blockers-

It was- And all of a sudden,

you were there. And we were there

for like a couple months.

Oh my God. Oh my God.

And it was...

Oh yeah.

So you're like living it up in Bulgaria.

You are a Bulgarian.

How about this?

Just setting the table for you.

It's me, Aubrey Plaza and Addison Rae.

Oh my God.

[Margaux laughing] In Bulgaria

working out in a Bulgarian hotel gym every morning.

[Margaux] Oh.

Just to pass the time.

Yeah. Uh-huh.

Addison and I like got

very close- It's like what people do

in prison when they work out. She was show, yeah,

she was showing me like her workout videos.

Oh my God.

Were doing like Pilates together.

Did you dance a little?

We went to like drag shows together.

That's fun. Yeah.

There's very incriminating video footage of-

All Back to blackmail.

Aubrey that I have on my phone from that night.

I took Addison to a casino.

I taught them how to play poker.

Wow.

Yeah. What kind of poker

do you play?

Like I don't really, like five card stud.

Okay, yeah.

I know how to play Texas Hold 'Em.

And then the one, Texas, yeah, yeah.

You know, like basic poker.

Yeah. And then we went to a casino

and Addison got sat beside a professional poker player.

Perfect. Oh my God.

Who- Was this her first time

at a casino. Helped her win $1000

[Margaux gasps] at the poker table.

She is charming.

I believe it. And I lost,

[Hannah laughing]

I think, $150.

Like and I lost 1000. Sitting across the table

watching Addison- Yeah.

Play like poker with this very generous man.

Anyway, it was a wild time.

And the movie is absolutely insane.

Oh, I'm excited. So I don't know

when it comes out, I don't know what is going on with it,

but it'll come out eventually.

She plays a cop, I think, and I play a park ranger

chasing a miniature pony and a bear across America.

Hmm.

Wait, across America, but you shot it in Bulgaria?

Uh-huh.

Okay, yes, yes. Hollywood is not

what it used to be, baby. It's Bulgaria.

Yeah. For Colorado.

Oh. You know what?

Bulgaria in the winter for Colorado in the summer.

Totally. [Margaux laughing]

Just smoke a big old joint

and go see the movie whenever

it comes out because- Ooh, I'm excited,

yeah, yeah. It's a wild time.

Oh, I'm excited. Yeah.

You know, we love to end these interviews

by asking people their general culture diets.

Like what are you reading?

What are you watching?

What are you listening to right now?

How are you filling your days?

I just got back from Japan.

It's my favorite place in the world.

I go every year.

Bought a bunch of beautiful ceramics there.

Mm. In Kyoto?

In Kyoto. Yes.

And Tokyo. Oh, fab.

Some really amazing places.

I got a very small place in London

where I will be living for part of the year

and I bought some stuff to kind of put

in my little place in London.

Just some Japanese pots and a mattress on the floor.

Of course.

And yeah, I went to a really great bookstore

in Chelsea yesterday.

I don't live in New York-

[Margaux and Hannah] Mm-hmm.

But I'm here because the show was here

and I just finished sort of wrapping up the season.

So I've never lived in New York before and-

Oh my gosh.

And normally, when I'm in New York,

Trevor card reader, Michael designer-

Yes. Were here and it would be

like, that was my New York and now they're in Paris.

Oh, yeah. Just as I come to New York.

So I'm kind of-

It's unfair. Discovering it solo

with a few friends that I've met here.

But I went to a really great bookstore

and found an Anne Carson book of poetry

that I had never seen before.

[Margaux] Mm.

If you don't know Anne Carson, she's a great poet.

Autobiography of Red is my favorite long form poem.

Mm, okay.

And yeah, I've just been like taking sort of,

squeezing the juice out of my time off.

Do you like playlists?

Like when you're walking around exploring New York,

are you headphones in, headphones out?

Headphones in always.

Okay.

Which is, now that I say that,

[Hannah laughing]

I should be like, we should be hearing the birds and-

I do like to have headphones in,

so no one speaks to me,

but nothing on. That's right.

Oh. So I can eavesdrop

because people in the subway

will have like really crazy conversations.

Yeah, they have those like settings on the AirPods now

where you can like hear what other people are saying.

Oh. Where it's like microphone.

Oh no, mine is like-

It's crazy.

Yeah, I was listening to the new James Blake.

Oh, fab. Oh, I was listening

to that this morning.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, great.

Really, really beautiful. Mm-hmm.

And also what I just discovered,

like about a year ago the last time I was in Japan,

was Auto Shazam.

Do you know about this?

Mm-mm. No.

So Shazam has an option if,

you know how like you press the button

on Shazam. Yeah.

If you press the button and hold the button-

It just keeps going? It goes into Auto Shazam.

Oh my God.

So Japan has the most incredible bar culture.

Yes.

Record bars, listening bars.

And so I had my phone on Auto Shazam my entire Japan trip.

And I came home and like have been listening

to this like playlist of all of my adventures.

Oh and it adds them up for you-

It adds them all- Into a playlist?

That's great. And then turns them

into a playlist. Nice.

And then you can export the playlist into-

Chic. Like your-

Your music. Various stream,

listening service. Yeah.

So I've also been doing that which is-

Are you into vinyl at all?

It's so good. I am, but I don't-

Yeah.

I have a record player at my house in LA.

It's a hefty habit too- And I inherited

my parents record collectsion.

Me too.

Yeah. I love it.

It was, they had great taste.

My parents did too

but they like left two personal of notes

where they'd be like, we loved to listen to this

when we met in college. To you?

Yeah, they left like sticky notes on all the records.

Oh wow. Yeah.

And some of them

I was like, mm. This is what we were

listening to when we made you.

Yeah, exactly. Oh.

And I'm like, James Taylor.

[Hannah and Dan laughing]

I love him. Steely Dan?

[Hannah and Margaux laughing]

What?

A Recorder album. So sexy.

Oh wow.

Wow.

Well, Dan, thank you so much for coming on the show.

Oh my gosh, thanks-

This so much fun. It was so fun.

Thanks for having me.

What a blast. Yeah.

What a treat.

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